Topic: Harassment, Parliament and the BBC

[SG]

I can't remember words that were said to me or words I said yesterday accurately. How do the accusers recall things that were said years ago and report them word for word.

So many of the accusers also use the same words to describe their alleged ordeals namely 'lunged' and 'barged' How does a man 'lunge' at a woman in a lunchtime restaurant  meal?

Sounds like many accusers have got a WhatsApp group going on. "We've used 'lunged' and 'barged' a lot sisters. Anyone used 'thrusted' yet?"

Could be!

[Paul]

Which one? I prefer not to duplicate too.

'Front Page' threads are open to the www. One doesn't need to be a forum member to see them.

[aron]

I can't remember words that were said to me or words I said yesterday accurately. How do the accusers recall things that were said years ago and report them word for word.

So many of the accusers also use the same words to describe their alleged ordeals namely 'lunged' and 'barged' How does a man 'lunge' at a woman in a lunchtime restaurant  meal?

Sounds like many accusers have got a WhatsApp group going on. "We've used 'lunged' and 'barged' a lot sisters. Anyone used 'thrusted' yet?"

I heard a radio phone in on LBC two days ago where a lady rang the studio to say that 30 years ago when she was a junior (accountant or solicitor ?) at a firm she worked for, this particular weekend morning she went into work and could wear what she liked.  There was only herself and a senior partner in the building that morning, and they got in the lift together.

When the lift started moving, the man remarked to her 'You fill those jeans well'  She said that she just froze and never answered him and that she had never been as frightened, as she had the whole day to work with him.

She said that now..30 years later why does she remember that - and she said she thought that the man who said it would probably have long forgotten it.

But her point was not that she was complaining that it had happened, but how it made her feel, and how thinking back to it and talking about it made her feel even to this day thirty years later/

The discussion around this programme was that Anne Robinson has said well if any kind of sexual abuse or touching would have happened to me in my day I would just have slapped is face, and ' why can't these young women complaining today' do just that ?

If this woman ( who was in her early twenties at the time, ( or anyone in a similar awkward situation) had done just that, wouldn't you think that the man could have got violent if he was slapped down ?

I know that some would like to know why women didn't report these things at the time, and why are they reporting them now..But the thing is - they are reporting them now.  It doesn't mean to say that things never happened.

Certain men who don't know the difference between a nice compliment or sexual innuendo will continue to treat women and girls in a bad way if they are continually allowed to go on without being checked.

It's good that something seems to be getting moving in making us all aware that there are proper ways to behave.

[SG]

Seriously??

If that's the worst thing she's had said to her in 30 years then she's a lucky woman.  It might have just been a harmless, if somewhat clumsy attempt at a compliment.

[aron]

I believed her when I listened to her speaking.  It might have been a harmless clumsy attempt at a compliment, and it might not. She was in her early twenties, he was much older. She obviously 'froze' when he said it, and she was scared. Her point was that she still remembered how really frightened she was.

It's ok to assume it was harmless, and maybe it was, but why should it be ok for a man to say that to a woman. Rather than 'I like the style of your jeans'  It was a personal remark .

[SG]

A compliment is a personal remark though.

He obviously didn't say anything else, follow it up, or say anything similar on any other occasion.

Sorry, but I think it's ridiculous.

[aron]

It's what she thinks that counts

[SG]

I think she needs a sense of perspective!

[Beppy]

I'm afraid she's got problems if she's still troubled by a remark made 30 years ago. Silly flirty remark but not crude or vulgar which might have been upsetting.

[aron]

Each to their own train of thought

[SG]

I'm afraid she's got problems if she's still troubled by a remark made 30 years ago. Silly flirty remark but not crude or vulgar which might have been upsetting.

Quite.

[aron]

As I said.. each to....

[Myra]

As I said.. each to....

Each to indeed aron 

[Beppy]

As I said.. each to....

Of course it is but if that was my daughter troubled by a fairly innocuous remark 30 years later I would be concerned!

[SG]

I wish some of these seemingly hypersensitive women could talk to some victims of real sexual abuse - it might open their eyes a bit and make them realise that they haven't really suffered at all.