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Title: The Paris Accord.
Post by: Furryanimal on Fri 02-Jun-2017 | 06:06AM
So why exactly is this bad for America?
Title: Re: The Paris Accord.
Post by: Norn on Fri 02-Jun-2017 | 08:09AM
Trump got in on the votes of the blue collar workers who have been losing jobs. These jobs are mostly in the 'dirty' industries, like coal mining and those that use the coal.
To cut pollution, these jobs have to go, (in fact, just modernisation will do that).  So Trump must refuse to save the planet because he puts America First.
One face , the big coal mining are in the US is round Pittsburg, and the Mayor of Pittsburg is all for the Paris Contract
Title: Re: The Paris Accord.
Post by: Furryanimal on Fri 02-Jun-2017 | 10:13AM
Trump got in on the votes of the blue collar workers who have been losing jobs. These jobs are mostly in the 'dirty' industries, like coal mining and those that use the coal.
To cut pollution, these jobs have to go, (in fact, just modernisation will do that).  So Trump must refuse to save the planet because he puts America First.
One face , the big coal mining are in the US is round Pittsburg, and the Mayor of Pittsburg is all for the Paris Contract
Well put.He did say he was going to do this so no surprise.But on this issue the world should be coming first.
Title: Re: The Paris Accord.
Post by: Dickiemint on Fri 02-Jun-2017 | 14:28PM
I wonder how much of the coal and oil industry Trump owns?  And how much the industry contributes to the Republican party?
Title: Re: The Paris Accord.
Post by: Furryanimal on Fri 02-Jun-2017 | 15:23PM
I wonder how much of the coal and oil industry Trump owns?  And how much the industry contributes to the Republican party?
I have seen a comment on another site that the USA could not be a party to this accord without approval from Congess.I have no idea if that is right-any Americans able to tell me?- but you have to wonder.
Title: Re: The Paris Accord.
Post by: Van der Merwe on Sat 03-Jun-2017 | 14:14PM
Maybe Trumps action will burst the bubble of this  MMGW quasi religion.
 I don't deny climate change. I believe the evidence that it is happening but to believe that man by its puny efforts can stop, or reverse it, is the ultimate conceit.
 Not so many years ago the belief was that there was a widening hole in the ozone layer, caused by man. Then it was encouragement (presumably on the back of advice from "experts") that we should switch from dirty old petrol cars to much more friendly diesel ones.  In the seventies the "experts" were warning that the planet was cooling down.
I believe that the whole MM climate change issue is driven by the large sums of money being thrown to "experts" on the back of questionable investigation. It's an industry.
So good for Trump. At last someone who sees that the emperors new cloths are illusionary.
Title: Re: The Paris Accord.
Post by: King Arthur on Mon 19-Jun-2017 | 19:15PM
Maybe Trumps action will burst the bubble of this  MMGW quasi religion.
 I don't deny climate change. I believe the evidence that it is happening but to believe that man by its puny efforts can stop, or reverse it, is the ultimate conceit.


I fear the "ultimate conceit" is in fact to deny what the Science clearly shows: that the climate is changing, in major part due to the activities of mankind and that mankind, by changing its ways, can limit that change in climate. Unless and until properly assessed evidence is presented to refute that position, then rational and sensible people must stick with the Science. No such evidence has as yet been brought forward.

I note that Trump no longer denies mankind's role in changing the climate. Wise man.
Title: Re: The Paris Accord.
Post by: Moonlighter on Thu 12-Nov-2020 | 20:10PM
I have yet to see a definition of "climate change".
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